HMs: 1993 Memphis Blues (10-70. this is actually a 71 OVR team... Wtf. Lack of ball-handlers, I'd guess. They didn't have a single Guard in the roster that season), 1919 Atlanta Kaiju (10-70), 1949 Saint Louis Spirits (10-70), 2003 Las Vegas Pandas (10-72), 2020 Utah Missionaries (8-60)

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1912 - Albany Bagels Record: 7-53
Once upon a time, in 1911, Albany had a decent star duo, consisting of 23-year-old 61 OVR 6'4 PG/SG Connor Juergens, who averaged 15/4/13/0.5/2, and 28-year-old 61 OVR 6'4 SF Blake Woolsey, who averaged 20/7/3/1.3/1.6 a duo that led them to a 23-37. However, both were expiring contracts that season. And both were unsatisfied. Mainly due to the team's record of 23-37 and their small contract offers, so, they parted ways with the team. Connor left for the Boston Massacre, in which he became a 72 OVR by 1914, and made $870K. While Blake Woolsey left for the Philadelphia Cheesesteaks, in which he got his bag of $870K through 4 years, despite being traded in 1913. To top it all off, in 1912 the RNGod completely crushed all their hopes through a team-wide regression spree, and they ended up with a 14 OVR team, led by 26 year-old Lithuanian C Tomas Galdikas, who averaged just 16 PPG, 6 REB and 1.6 BLK. 7 wins and 53 losses.

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1924 - Virginia Pigeons Record: 9-71
Virginia had been a tanking team since 1919 (yes, they did make the playoffs in 1920 and 1921, but their last 40-win season had been all the way back in 1918), and this 1924 season was just the culmination of all that tanking combined with bad front office decisions. For example, in the 1922 draft, a draft with 6 All-Stars and 4 different Hall-of-famers, they had the 7th pick. And with the 7th pick, they picked the 7'3 Center Bobby Klein, who peaked at 57.

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1917 - Las Vegas Pandas Record: 9-71
In 1916, Las Vegas had a decent team, with tons of decent/good roleplayers, built around their superstar David Herbig (who was their leading scorer, rebounder, assister, blocker and stealer), who was averaging 24/7.5/8.5/1.7/1.8 that season. 1917 was just the result of a team-wide regression, including David Herbig himself, who went from 71 in 1915, to 67 in 1916 and then 65 in 1917. Now, it's not like Herbig wasn't trying. He still averaged 21/7/8.5/1.8/1.4 and made the All-Stars but that's just not enough, you know? The team-wide regression really f*cked them up. Only 4 players in that team averaged double digit numbers, including David Herbig, who himself regressed from 24 PPG to 21.

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1987 - Minnesota Blizzard Record: 9-71
A complete lack of good players. Even in 1986, a season in which they at least won 16 games, they only had 3 players averaging 15+ PPG. Including 43 year old 50 OVR Carlos Vroman. By 1987, even he had abandoned this dumpster fire of a team, and they were left with only their star, future HOF 6'1 Guard Nicholas Rendleman, one of the hardest-working players in league history, who, despite averaging 26.5/5/11/0.5/2 couldn't help carry this team to even TEN wins, and the 10th season veteran roleplayer 6'3 SG/SF Tim Maguire, who averaged 18/6.5/3/0.5/1.2. Those were the only players to average 15 PPG+ in this team (the 26 year-old PG Nate Miller did average 15+ too, at 16.7, but he only played 23 games that season. They traded him away for young PF Len Everett, who'd be loyal to them for a long time, but still...)

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1961 - Austin Convicts Record: 9-71
I feel bad for Jamés Linder in this situation. He's top 15 of all time according to my GOAT Lab Formula, yet, the Boston Massacre, the team he had been loyal to his whole career, even missing tons of opportunities to win more rings just to make the state of Massachusetts proud... They just abandoned him. Traded him away to this garbage of a team (a team that went 20-60 in 1960) just because he was 37 and left him to rot there. He even said on interviews that he felt completely betrayed by the front office... I mean, it wouldn't have been that bad if Austin's d*ckhead GM wouldn't have let their previous season All-Star, Sean Bernard, walk in free agency. They could've played together and... Idk maybe have made playoffs? Anyways, Jamés Linder, despite being 38, with terrible athleticism at that point and on a sharp decline, still tried to salvage the team, averaging 28 PPG, 5 REB and 10 AST (idk how tf he missed the All-Star team), but it just wasn't supposed to be. Jamés Linder hated playing basketball during 1961, and would go on to retire just 2 seasons later.
Ooh Boy, here we go. The top 5 worst teams in NBF history, the worst of the worst, the absolute most Trash, Garbage, Dumpster Fire teams are here. Are you ready? drums

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1917 - Boston Massacre Record: 8-72
The highest OVR player on this team was 56 OVR, 34-year-old, HOF veteran 6'5 SG/SF Kyle Turner. He averaged 17.2 PPG (SEVENTEEN) that season. Literally the only thing worth noting in this complete and utter disaster of a season is the development of their 7th pick in the 1916 draft, the 6'4 PG Tim Jones who progressed from 46 to 53 that season. He was one of their 6 50+ OVR players. They only had 6 50+ OVR players. I don't even have anything to say. (Idk why I was so surprised by this. Now, after I have finished writing, I've realized that 50s actually seems decent when compared to some of those teams)

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1987 - Portland Roses Record: 8-72
This team is even worse than the previous one, at least in terms of 50 OVR players. They have 4 in total. But I wouldn't say they are as bad as the presence of 4 50s indicates. They have two seasoned-veterans and future HOFers in 58 OVR 37-year-old Jackson Drayton, who averaged 17 PPG and 12 AST and 44 OVR 42-year-old Ethan Couch who averaged 13 PPG, 8 REB and 6 AST. In fact, this team had 6 players averaging double digit PPG and a defensive specialist who averaged 8 PPG. Their main option, the 6'1, #7 pick in the 1983 draft Zach Seacat, who many considered to be a bust, showed he could at least score and shoot a bit, averaging 18 PPG, 4 REB, 3 AST, 1.6 STL on 37.8% from downtown. Yeah, the team was terrible, but it's all fun and games when you're averaging 18 PPG on 38% from 3, right?

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1992 - San Diego Armadillos Record: 7-73
Now, this team is a TERRIBLY underperforming team. Not as underperforming as the 1993 Memphis Blues, but still, they were a 27 OVR team. They should've won at least 11 games, you know? At the start of the season, they also had 2 Future HOFers in the form of 60 OVR 23-year-old PF/C Frank Johnson, who was averaging 15 PPG, 11 REB, 2 AST, 2.1 BLK and 2 STL on elite shooting splits. However, he got traded, just before the trade deadline for Boston's Kareem Kirven, an actual 34-year-old All-Star Caliber Guard, who averaged 25 PPG, 9.8 REB, 7 AST, 0.3 BLK and 1.3 STL through 32 games with them. Their other future HOF player was Dominick Womack, a classic PG who was averaging 17 PPG, 4.5 REB, 8.5 AST and 1.2 BLK with 41 3P%. But yeah, outside of the 2 star players they had through the season (either Dominick and Frank or Dominick and Kareem), they didn't really have much help, outside of 3 & D Wing Aaron Walker, who was averaging 17 PPG, 1 BLK and 1.6 STL on 36% from 3, and maybe veteran Devin Outlaw, who was averaging 12 PPG and 6 REB? So, let's just say the lack of role-players was what ultimately ruined them
oh god...

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2000 - Atlanta Kaiju Record: 4-76
To see arguably the 3rd or 2nd greatest franchise in NBF history be brought down to it's knees like this is completely heartbreaking. The same franchise that won 10 championship rings and had the greatest season of all time in 1950, going 73-7, is also the franchise tied for the worst season in league history, at 4-76, exactly 50 years after their glorious season. Truly disheartening. It's not even funny to laugh and insult them at this point, it's just sad. Their leading scorer was acquired in the middle of the season through a trade, having only played 36 games. That player was Kelvin Smith, a 26th overall pick. He averaged 23 PPG, 9 REB, 4 AST, 0.7 BLK and 1.7 STL. Now, he was at least a 62 overall, but as a I said, he was acquired in the middle of the season. Their true scoring leader, through the entire season? A 54 overall. 54 OVR, 7'1 Nate Ramos. A DEFENSIVE-SPECIALIST CENTER. THIS TEAM IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. He averaged 17.8 PPG, 11.5 REB, 6 AST (he has 57 passing), 1.7 BLK and 0.8 STL. And was the team-leader in everything. expect steals, that goes to 47 overall PG Nick Martin, who averaged 1.6 STL.

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1953 - Minneapolis Snipers
Their 4 best players were, respectively: A 57 A 52 A 51 A 50 Now, let's look at 2022 San Diego Armadillos. They were a terribly MID team, going 40-42 and getting the 9th seed. You know how many minutes their 52 and 51s get? 52 Valentino Burgess - 13.7 51 Case King - 11.2 51 Ken Hicks - 10.5
Wanna know who got more than that in this Minneapolis Snipers team? 37 Tosin Nwosu - 15.4
This is just an absurdity. At least their 57 OVR was averaging 21 PPG, but still, that's 13.8 PER for him. Their best player had 13.8 PER. Their second best, the 30-year-old 51 OVR F Lance Onwuasor had 13.7 PER. Their third best, the young future HOFer SF 50 OVR Brendan Paongo, had 10.7 PER.
Oh, and this team is a, a kid you not, MINUS ONE Overall. Let's just say that, not even in the first season in league history (1891) there was a negative overall team. In fact, the worst team that season, at least in terms of OVR, was a 44 Overall team. The ultimate disaster: 1953, Minneapolis.

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A new era is under way in Green Bay, and there's a lot to cover about this offseason. First, let's set the stage.
Key Signings:
KR Keisean Nixon- the return dynamo who renewed my will to live after watching Amari Rodgers play football. Signed again on a 1 year deal worth up to $4m. And he figures to have a larger role on defense this season. This was one of the biggest wishes for packer fans this offseason, as it finally shows a dedication to building the ST unit.
S Rudy Ford- he had himself a nice 2022 and got re-signed for his efforts. It's a one year deal, and he will compete for the starting safety spot as of now.
CB Corey Ballentine- a reserve CB who I will always have a soft spot for due to his tragic draft night story. Ballentine has been re-signed and will compete for snaps in an unsettled secondary.
S Dallin Leavitt- a Rich Bisaccia re-signing. Leavitt was a quiet killer last season as a special teams ace, and he returns in that role this season.
OT Yosh Nijman- a developmental prospect that has blossomed into an serviceable swing tackle, I thought Nijman would get more on the open market than his RFA tender price. He will be back with the Pack in a LT2 and RT2 role for 2023.
Key Departures:
DT Dean Lowry- Lowry gave the Pack his best and we appreciate him, but his ceiling was evident and achieved. Devonte Wyatt was drafted as a high upside replacement. Lowry signed with the Vikings on a 2 year deal.
WR Allen Lazard- Aaron Rodgers's latest security blanket, Lazard is rejoining Rodgers on a 4y, 44m deal with the New York Jets. A quiet, consistent performer for the Packers throughout his tenure, Lazard will continue to be a sure-handed possession receiver in New York, transforming the slot position previously occupied by Elijah Moore into more of a big slot. He will also continue to mug people in the run game.
TE Robert Tonyan- Bobby Tonyan heads south to Chicago to be TE2 behind Cole Kmet. Packer fans love Tonyan for bringing pride back to the position in GB, and I honestly feel bad for him. He likely missed on his chance for a big pay day after tearing his ACL in 2021 and having a down year coming back. Now he's pushing 30, but he still provides excellent hands for the position and a great work ethic. Godspeed, buddy.
DL Jarran Reed- the big man returns to Seattle this season on a 2 year deal. Reed was just about what we expected in Green Bay- not great, not bad. He was a placeholder in a spot that Wyatt hopefully can take over.
Free Agents yet to be signed:
WR Randall Cobb, S Adrian Amos, TE Marcedes Lewis, K Mason Crosby
All members of the old guard. Cobb recently had surgery, and is a contender to rejoin Rodgers in NY. Amos had a down year, but could still have some left in the tank. I'm guessing he has an offer from GB and is weighing his options. Lewis also could be weighing his options between retirement, the Jets, or sailing into the sunset where it all began for him in Jacksonville. Mason Crosbys wife seemed to confirm on social media recently that the Packers have little interest in re-signing their all time leading scorer. Crosby made some clutch kicks for us over the years, and if this is the end, the Silver Fox will never have to buy a beer in Titletown again.
2022 season review: Record: 8-9 Oh man. 2022 was the year it all came crashing down. Green Bay tried to keep its veteran core together for a few years, appeasing Rodgers and navigating the salary cap reasonably well. But they never achieved that brass ring. Minus Davante Adams and working with a broken thumb, Rodgers struggled the most he has since his inaugural season as a starter. It's now time to address Rodgers in this post; I could write an entire entry solely on Rodgers and this past season, but I'll leave it at this: Aaron is my favorite football player of all time. He led the Packers to their greatest stretch of sustained excellence since Vince Lombardi roamed the sidelines, often with depleted rosters around him. In my opinion, hes the most talented QB to play the game. It seems a majority of Packer fans were ready to move on from the man and soured on him this offseason. Personally, I think he will be an MVP contender in NY next year and still love him. But it was time. The Jordan Love era needs to happen, if only for the front office itself needing to justify their faith in the Love pick. Rodgers and the Packers were operating on different timelines the past few years, stuck somewhere between going all in and resetting. The front office has put all their chips in on Jordan Love.
The defense was expected to be a top 5 unit, but regressed heavily. Joe Barry was under scrutiny all year long, seemingly incapable of putting his plethora of first rounders in positions to succeed. A late season push did just enough to save his job (apparently).
Favorite win: Dallas Most frustrating loss: Detroit, week 18
Rodgers's exit also raises an interesting thought: will we see the True Matt LaFleur Offense this season? Offensive deficiencies have been blamed on Lafleur himself or Rodgers's hesitancy at transitioning from a traditional west coast offense to a Shanahan-esque, motion based attack. The answer will be uncovered this year, with Jordan Love having 3 years of experience in the scheme and a first round pedigree. As a Love truther in the pre draft season who hated the pick for the Packers, I am fascinated. This pick will make or break Gute's and Lafleur's tenure.
Aside from the quarterback situation, there are lingering questions concerning LaFleur's ability to lead the team in general. The Packers have consistently laid an egg in one game every season of his tenure and have come up short in the playoffs, with some head scratching decisions rearing their head in crunch time of big games (the end of the Bucs NFC championship the most glaring). I also have questions on his staff hirings/retentions. LaFleur hired 2 dogshit ST coordinators before making the obvious choice of Basaccia. He also chose to retain Joe Barry, noted football terrorist, as defensive coordinator. I've read rumblings that Gute has more say over the staff than the head coach, which is unconfirmed but concerning. I don't mean to dump on LaFleur in this piece, only to emphasize how big of a year this is for him. I think his scheme is sound and the guys play hard for him. With Rodgers gone, I think we see less RPOs and inside zone handoffs to AJ Dillon out of shotgun. The offense will have more identity. But if there are 2 more years without the playoffs in Green Bay, the Cheeseheads will advocate for a new coach.
2023 Draft:
Positions of need: S, TE, WR, DT
Round 1, Pick 13: Lukas Van Ness, Edge, Iowa With the world expecting Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Gute stuck true to his type and drafted athletic freak LVN out of Iowa. Van Ness profiles as a Rashan Gary clone, with a high RAS score and unrefined repertoire of pass rush moves. If he works out like Gary, this is a massive hit. In the pre draft process, the only guy who could have realistically been there for GB that I had above Van Ness was Peter Skoronski. He wasn't there, and there was no doubt in my mind Gute was going for LVN afterwards. He'll rotate with Gary and Preston Smith this year, and will kick inside on certain packages. He makes Smith expendable in the future.
Round 2, Pick 42: Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State Musgrave has the size and athleticism to be a game changer at tight end. His tape was short but encouraging. His biggest questions are durability and how he will develop, given his late breakout and immediate injury afterwards. My comparison to his playstyle was Travis Kelce, and if he can approach even 70% of Kelce's production in a season, this is a great pick. The biggest hole on the roster was TE, and I have a feeling Gute got the top one on his board.
Round 2, Pick 50: Jayden Reed, WR, Michigan State The process of this pick was nerve wracking. I was one of many fans pounding the table for Brian Branch, the S out of Alabama. When Gute traded down instead, I was telling friends I hoped he took Jayden Reed, and that's what happened. Reed is smaller receiver who plays bigger than his size on contested catches. He carried the Michigan State offense last year after Kenneth Walker jumped to the NFL. My comparison for him is Tyler Lockett. In Green Bay, Reed will take over the slot role, and I expect him to see around 60% of offensive snaps.
Round 3, Pick 78: Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State Another tight end added to a barren room. The former Jackrabbit is similar to Musgrave in a lot of ways- big, athletic, and a willing albeit unrefined blocker. Kraft's addition along with Musgraves could push the Packers into more 22 personal this season, something LaFleur wants to run but hasnt had the personnel for, and I would not be surprised to see him outsnap Musgrave if he develops quickly. I'm really hoping this is the pick that breaks Green Bays 3rd round curse (seriously look it up its so bad).
Round 4, Pick 116: Colby Wooden, Edge, Auburn A former 4 star recruit at Auburn, Wooden collected 17 sacks as a 3 year starter in the SEC and showed inside/outside versatility. He shows an ability to rush with speed and power, but is inconsistent in his pad level and technique. He anchors well in the run game and showed great gap discipline. I don't see him getting many snaps this year, but if he does I think he takes Kingsley Engabare's role on run downs.
Round 5, Pick 149: Sean Clifford, QB, Penn State A perplexing pick until I saw this man somehow has a 9 RAS. Clifford is an experienced college starter who plays with a clear understanding of his role and a passion for the game. My issues with him were accuracy, arm strength, pocket presence, and decision making. You know, playing quarterback. I did not give Clifford a draftable grade and would have preferred Jaren Hall or Max Duggan. But this is really nit picking over a 5th round pick who was drafted to be a career backup. If the staff sees something in him, I'll give it a chance.
Round 5, Pick 159: Dontayvion Wicks, WR, Virginia A 6'1, 206 lb vertical threat, Wicks was inconsistent in his career at Virginia. If he replicated his 2021 production last year, he might have found himself as a day 2 pick. Alas, a new offense and drops led to his availability at this spot. Wicks has a good release package and the ability to stack DBs and get vertical. His tendencies as a body catcher led to drops last year, and he doesn't provide much after the catch. With his profile, he'll be a WR4/5, but could be a special teams ace very early in his career.
Round 6, Pick 179: Karl Brooks, DL, Bowling Green A bit of a tweener, Brooks is a high motor, high effort pass rusher. He flashes great technique and seems to rush with a plan. He can get washed out in the run game, and will need to commit one way or another to defensive end or defensive tackle. He graded very high from PFF, so that's something. To get on the field, he'll have to show more consistency and ability when anchoring down in the run game.
Round 6, Pick 207: Anders Carlson, K, Auburn Apparently, Mason Crosby's replacement. Anders is the brother of Las Vegas kicker Daniel Carlson, who's pretty damn good. There is a connection with Basaccia there, who's known Anders since high school. I wasn't encouraged by his stats at Auburn, but I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in scouting kickers. If Basaccia says he's that dude, then that dude he is.
Round 7, Pick 232: Carrington Valentine, CB, Kentucky Valentine is a WR convert with a long, slender frame. He is at his best in press man, where he has a variety of ways to get hands on the receiver and reroute him. Unfortunately for Vallentine, Joe Barry hates press man and will kill my family if I suggest it again. Valentine's frame can lead him to get bullied by bigger WRs at times, but he is physical at the catch point. He also brings experience as a productive kick returner, something that could be helpful in the future or even this season if the staff wants to keep Nixon fresh for defensive snaps.
Round 7, Pick 235: Lew Nichols, RB, Central Michigan A big back with some intriguing traits, Nichols enjoyed a very productive 2021 before injuries hampered his 2022. Nichols has good vision, contact balance, and power as a north-south runner. He was productive catching out of the backfield, but wasn't asked to run many routes beyond that. His biggest hurdles in the NFL are going to be elusiveness and speed. He lacks both, but should be a decent backup. For the Packers, they used their RB3 less than maybe any team in the league last year. This will be the Jones&Dillon show again in 2023.
Round 7, Pick 242: Anthony Johnson Jr, S, Iowa State Johnson Jr is a converted cornerback who plays with rare physicality for someone of that description. He did his best work in the box or in the slot at Iowa State, and that may be where the Pack will try to get him some snaps this year. He can be over aggressive in his pursuits at times and take bad angles, but that is coachable. Given the state of the safety room, the 7th round rookie may find himself starting some games this season.
Round 7, Pick 256: Grant DuBose, WR, Charlotte DuBose comes from UNC Charlotte, where there apparently is a football team, and he was 2nd team all C-USA last season. DuBose has excellent size at 6'2, and I love his agility on in-breaking routes crossing the face of safeties. He has experience both outside and in the slot, and is an interesting addition to the WR battle at the bottom of the roster, which is going to be highly competitive. It may come down to how good he can be on special teams. Coaches and teammates rave about his work ethic and love of football, and he worked at Walmart while keeping himself in shape during the Covid year. I'm optimistic he can carve out a role for himself and make the team.
Overall, Gutekunst drafted for need at times in this draft, but still stuck to picking guys that fit his type: big, athletic, and versatile. My biggest shock was not taking a safety until the 7th round, but I think it just never lined up with his board. There was an obvious effort to surround Love with talented pass catchers, which is a breath of fresh air from this team. I was surprised that they didn't take a single offensive linemen, given this is almost certainly Bakh's last year in the green and gold and question marks surrounding some of our young guys, but we drafted 3 linemen last year and the staff may have high hopes for Zach Tom to be the next left tackle. The franchise has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to scouting and developing OL.
All told, 2023 is the most excited I've been for a Packer season in a few years. There are so many unknown variables surrounding the team, from Jordan Loves development to LaFleur's offense to Joe Barry's pending glue eating scandal. Media pundits have them ranked somewhere between 20 & 26 in the league hierarchy heading into the year. Personally, I'm a little higher on the Pack, and they will shoot up these rankings if Jordan Love delivers. There's a lot on Love's shoulders. This is the season we've been waiting for with baited breath for 3 years, the post-Rodgers era, and now it's here, for better or worse.

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We've talked to death about Cam Whitmore, Taylor Hendricks, Jarace Walker, and Ausur Thompson but something we haven't really talked about much is the possibility of trading back.
The truth is... we've got our star players already, Cade was taken 1st overall for a reason, and he averaged 20, 6, and 6 while injured this season. Ivey finished last season averaging 20.7 points and 7.1 assists over the last 12 games shooting 38.6% from 3 on 6.8 attempts per game. Duren nearly averaged a double-double while playing most of his games off the bench and shooting less than 6 shots per game, if Duren was in this draft class like he was supposed to he would be a top 5 pick.
The point is that we don't need to take a high-risk, high-reward prospect. A case could be made that the #1 need we have is depth, not star power. The only players on a rookie contract after this upcoming season is Cade, Ivey, and Duren.
Getting multiple 1st rounders to fill out the roster may be better than just having #5, considering the salary cap makes signing numerous quality role-players difficult (on top of having to pay a premium in order for them to play in Detroit). And multiple 1sts may be better than just #5 because #5 could be a bust, whoever it is selected at that spot. And if #5 is a bust then we wasted an entire year without improving our team. We'd have more chances at getting a good player with multiple 1sts, even if the prospects we have to select from are worse, essentially more bites at the apple.
All that being said, I'm gonna commit the cardinal sin of NBA Reddit: proposing a hypothetical trade. I'm gonna try to be as realistic as possible while trying to make a good trade for us. So, we may have to give up more than you or I would want in this trade but that's just how the NBA is, I mean... remember when we thought we we're gonna get #7 for Jerami Grant? Anyways, this is the trade...
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This is presented as a 4-team trade, but it's easier to understand as 3 trades in a row.
Trade #1:
DET sends: Isaiah Livers, Best of NOP or POR 2026 2nd, Best of NYK or MIN 2026 2nd, pick #5
DET receives: Rudy Gay (Salary Dump), Simone Fontecchio (salary dump), #9, #16, and #28
Rationale: Again, we give up more than I think we probably should because that's just what tends to happen in the NBA. Both Rudy Gay and Simone's contracts are 1-year deals so we wouldn't take on any long-term salary and we wouldn't have to extend Livers who may want more than we are willing to give.
Livers could be a solid backup for the Jazz. The 2nds could be used by the Jazz in future draft day trades, which are gonna happen considering how many picks they have after the Mitchell and Gobert trades. The reason the Jazz trade up is to get that high-risk, high-reward player we don't need. Lauri Markannen has already broken out as an all-star, and Walker Kessler looks like a future DPOY in the making. #5 could be a solid co-star for those two. This trade will also save the Jazz money which they could use to sign role-players. The Jazz were a play-in team for most of the season and this trade will help them return to the playoffs more than not making this trade.
Trade #2:
DET sends: Best of MEM or WAS 2024 2nd, Best of GSW or WAS 2025 2nd.
DET receives: Richaun Holmes (Salary Dump), #24
Rationale: This is a generic salary dump, the Kings love 2nd round picks for some reason and for every draft they have a couple (like #38 and #54 in this draft). Richaun Holmes could be a mentor for Wiseman and Bagley, or he could take over as the backup center. The Holmes salary dump will save them $12,046,020, not drafting at #24 will save them $2,244,300. Overall, assuming they decline Dozier's option, they will have around $39 million in cap space which they could use to re-sign Barnes to a $15 million per year deal and sign Naz Reid to a $12 million per year deal, which will leave $12 million to give Sabonis as part of his extension similar to what the Pacers did with Turner's extension.
Trade #3:
DET sends: Bojan, Burks, #24, #28, #31
DET receives: Bertans (salary dump), McGee (salary dump), #10
Rationale: Okay, this is a lot more than I think we should have to give up but again it's in the interest of trying to create the most realistic deal possible. Bertans and McGee's contracts aren't THAT bad, Bertans only has $5 million guaranteed in 2024-25, and McGee is only getting paid $6 million that season. Bertans is also a good enough shooter to potentially be a backup.
For Dallas, they get a proper 3rd option in Bojan, a solid backup SG in Burks, and 3 picks in the perfect range to draft bigs which they desperately need. Getting 3 rookies will definitely help them salary-wise as they will likely have to pay Kyrie a max to keep him on the team, and 2 max contracts on a team are hard to work around.
Overview:
We would have to take on a few salary dumps, but we would still have $12,421,395 in cap space. With that cap space, we could still sign a player like Donte DiVincenzo this off-season. We could extend Stew for $12 million per year and still have around $39 million in cap space next season (assuming the cap rises at the same rate next year). With 6 players on rookie contracts, 2 solid role players on inexpensive deals, and $39 million in cap space we would have a lot of options for that money.

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I already know what you're gonna say: The Hornets are already in Charlotte... They want to be true to New Orleans... The Pelicans is Louisiana's state bird, so it fits... Well let's just throw some facts out: In the ten years that New Orleans has been know as the Pelicans, they've wasted not one but TWO generational talents who were drafted number one (I know you'll say Zion isn't their fault, but at least partial blame goes to Pelicans management for not forcing him to get in better shape), they've had 3 all-star sidekicks(Holiday, Boogie, Ingram), they have a championship winning executive(David Griffin), and yet they've only one playoff series win. ONE! They have been an abject failure, and have wasted more talent than teams like Sacramento and Orlando wish they could glance at while they're waiting for the bar to reopen.
The Case for the Hornets: You might say: Okay, maybe not the Pelicans, but why the Hornets? They also only have one playoff series win, and besides CP3 and rookie AD, didn't have much going for them. Well I'll tell you why: This team meant so much to the city. After Katrina hit New Orleans, and the Hornets had to move to OKC for a year, it was a destitute land for New Orleans sports fans. Then, in 2008, young CP3 almost won MVP, led the Hornets to a 2 seed and a playoff series win, and almost beat the veteran Spurs in Game 7 of the semifinals. There was hope for fans in that city again, and while the CP3 era didn't last much longer than that year(he would be traded in 2011 to the Clippers), the ride was worth the experience. Those Hornets teams are bonded with New Orleans forever... Plus those jerseys and that color scheme are top 5 in NBA history imo.
The Case Against the Pelicans: On top of all my previous arguments, we have the address the issues outside of basketball. The ownership issues with the NBA and Tom Benson's wife can be dealt with separately, but the main problem with the Pelicans outside of basketball is the fact that people in New Orleans do not care about this team. The team ranked 26th in 22-23 in attendance, and have ranked below 20th in every season since the rebrand, with the exception of 2021, in which attendance limits make it hard to fairly compare it to other seasons. On top of the attendance issues(wow I sound like a middle school teacher), there is also the fact that the team is getting upstaged by LSU athletics in the local newspapers. Does New Orleans know how badly Seattle or Vancouver would kill for another chance at a team in their city? Or do they not care? Would they even bat any eyelash if Gayle Benson decided to move?
What About Charlotte: Ever since the Bobcats rebranded as the Hornets in the '14-'15 season, they've somehow been less notable than the Bobcats(wow that's sad). AT LEAST that team has the worst record of all time. That's something Bobcats fans all shared the horror of witnessing. The (new) Hornets' only claims to fame are hosting J. Cole's concert at the All-Star game in 2019 and drafting LaMelo Ball in 2020. Now that Mike wants to sell the team, this is Charlotte's chance to make their own identity, and that could be easily accomplished with (another) rebrand.
In Conclusion: The New Orleans Hornets should be revived, which may trigger a change in Zion to change his ways, make weight, and reach his top 5 potential... or eat more gumbo.

I already know what you're gonna say: The Hornets are already in Charlotte... They want to be true to New Orleans... The Pelicans is Louisiana's state bird, so it fits... Well let's just throw some facts out: In the ten years that New Orleans has been know as the Pelicans, they've wasted not one but TWO generational talents who were drafted number one (I know you'll say Zion isn't their fault, but at least partial blame goes to Pelicans management for not forcing him to get in better shape), they've had 3 all-star sidekicks(Holiday, Boogie, Ingram), they have a championship winning executive(David Griffin), and yet they've only one playoff series win. ONE! They have been an abject failure, and have wasted more talent than teams like Sacramento and Orlando wish they could glance at while they're waiting for the bar to reopen.
The Case for the Hornets: You might say: Okay, maybe not the Pelicans, but why the Hornets? They also only have one playoff series win, and besides CP3 and rookie AD, didn't have much going for them. Well I'll tell you why: This team meant so much to the city. After Katrina hit New Orleans, and the Hornets had to move to OKC for a year, it was a destitute land for New Orleans sports fans. Then, in 2008, young CP3 almost won MVP, led the Hornets to a 2 seed and a playoff series win, and almost beat the veteran Spurs in Game 7 of the semifinals. There was hope for fans in that city again, and while the CP3 era didn't last much longer than that year(he would be traded in 2011 to the Clippers), the ride was worth the experience. Those Hornets teams are bonded with New Orleans forever... Plus those jerseys and that color scheme are top 5 in NBA history imo.
The Case Against the Pelicans: On top of all my previous arguments, we have the address the issues outside of basketball. The ownership issues with the NBA and Tom Benson's wife can be dealt with separately, but the main problem with the Pelicans outside of basketball is the fact that people in New Orleans do not care about this team. The team ranked 26th in 22-23 in attendance, and have ranked below 20th in every season since the rebrand, with the exception of 2021, in which attendance limits make it hard to fairly compare it to other seasons. On top of the attendance issues(wow I sound like a middle school teacher), there is also the fact that the team is getting upstaged by LSU athletics in the local newspapers. Does New Orleans know how badly Seattle or Vancouver would kill for another chance at a team in their city? Or do they not care? Would they even bat any eyelash if Gayle Benson decided to move?
What About Charlotte: Ever since the Bobcats rebranded as the Hornets in the '14-'15 season, they've somehow been less notable than the Bobcats(wow that's sad). AT LEAST that team has the worst record of all time. That's something Bobcats fans all shared the horror of witnessing. The (new) Hornets' only claims to fame are hosting J. Cole's concert at the All-Star game in 2019 and drafting LaMelo Ball in 2020. Now that Mike wants to sell the team, this is Charlotte's chance to make their own identity, and that could be easily accomplished with (another) rebrand.
In Conclusion: The New Orleans Hornets should be revived, which may trigger a change in Zion to change his ways, make weight, and reach his top 5 potential... or eat more gumbo.

So, as a lot of us expected, a recent report says that the Spurs have interest in making a rather unusual move by their standards to pick up a second first-rounder in the draft next month, presumably to acquire a PG that they hope can start next to Victor Wembanyama for the next decade-plus. It’s an idea that had been gaining traction with fans even before the real whispers started because of how much sense it seemed to make - this is seen as a relatively deep draft, with a lot of intriguing options at a position of need that are currently being mocked in the mid-to-late lottery. I'm sure most people have seen plenty of discussion about it on this sub over the past few days, and in every thread, people are asking the smart first question: "Okay, but what would it take?"
There's a lot of things that factor into that answer, and I'm just some internet dork who watches and reads about and talks about and thinks about basketball too much so I obviously have no idea what kind of discussions GMs are actually having on that front. But I thought it would at least help to look at what the positions we'd presumably be targeting have brought back in trade in the past decade, and then try to approximate value with the Spurs' assets. Firstly, though...
Why would San Antonio do this?
There's two ways to answer that question, and the first is to look at it from the perspective of what the Spurs don't have: a long-term starting Point Guard. I like Tre Jones a lot - he's everything we could've hoped for as a second-round pick and then some - but he's not a player that's going to feasibly run the offense for a contending team. He'd make a fantastic backup, and the Spurs are obviously hoping that Sochan and Victor and to a lesser extent Branham evolve into above-average playmakers, especially as the organization makes strides to get closer to their positionless basketball philosophy. But I don't think any of that is going to supersede a desire to bring a more traditional lead guard into the fold, especially considering what the team does have.
And what San Antonio has right now is a lot of picks. Maybe not as many as OKC or Utah, but a lot nonetheless. Six first-rounders that aren't our own, to be exact, plus the swap rights to Atlanta's 2026 first-rounder and over twenty second-rounders. Simply put, I can guarantee you that the team won't be making all of those picks, because it's not smart roster building to be quite so overloaded with very young players when the idea is to start being competitive again. Having a lot of young talent with promise is a good problem to have until you hit the point of having so many mouths to feed that it starts stunting their development, and we're already looking at a potential slight roster crunch this year. As an example, the Pacers, who are arguably behind us in terms of the rebuilding process now since we won the Wemby sweepstakes, have 5 picks in this year's draft, 3 of them first-rounders, and Kevin Pritchard has already come out and said they're not making all of them. The Spurs, by comparison, could potentially have FIVE first-rounders in 2025 depending on league standings over the next couple years. Eventually, some of these picks will be used as a package to get one better pick or a star player. And there's a good argument that, if it's going to be the former, now is the time, because again, this is a strong draft.
So what specific assets do we have?
I'll go ahead and rank them in descending order by my perception of their value, excluding Wemby because he's obviously the most untouchable of untouchables.

• Sochan and Vassell: Very clearly big parts of this team moving forward and likely starters when our theoretical championship window opens
• Atlanta 2027 unprotected FRP: The Hawks are such a dumpster fire right now in some ways that this could easily end up being a Top 5 pick - notably, the last year of Trae's current contract is 2026-27
• Keldon Johnson: Anyone else tired of talking about him? I'll have a more in-depth look at why trading him might make sense later in this post, but he's still just 23 years old with room to grow and even with his deficiencies, he's got a lot of attractive qualities even if his long-term ceiling might be "good sixth man."
• Atlanta 2025 unprotected FRP
• Atlanta 2026 pick swap: There's an argument that this should be above the 2025 unprotected pick because the 2025 class is looking kinda rough and 2026 includes Cameron Boozer and Cooper Flagg, but ultimately having an extra pick in an individual future draft is, I think, more valuable than a swap because it allows for a move-up package
• Toronto 2024 FRP protected 1-6: Masai Ujiri and the Raptors are a little hard to read right now, even more than usual, but I think there's a good chance this could convey next year and still be in the top 10 somewhere.
• Zach Collins: A good starting center on a bad team or a very good backup center on a better team. He's got the Pop endorsement and trading him would leave our C rotation very light unless we've got something else cooking (not a good thing with Victor coming in), but I wouldn't want him to be the sticking point that holds up a potential good deal.
• Malaki Branham: I might be overrating him a bit here because I'm personally very high on Branham, but I think it's close enough. He's shown very promising flashes at the NBA level already, and if he can get more consistent from 3 it'll be very hard to stop him from scoring. Becoming even a passable defender on top of it would give him 6MOTY-level upside.
• Chicago 2025 FRP protected 1-10: I think Chicago's gonna be forced to blow it up soon. Multiple teams below them in the standings last year should be markedly improved already this season and they might even lose Vooch. So this may not convey for a while, if at all.
• Boston 2028 pick swap, protected for 1st overall: This is probably about even with the Chicago pick, really. Things can change quick in the NBA but I don't expect Boston to be bad for a while, and again, it's just a swap.
• Charlotte 2024 pick, lottery protected: This will almost definitely not convey next year. Maaaaybe in 2025, but I'm really starting to doubt LaMelo's ability to stay on the floor. And a pick outside of the lottery in a bad draft class won't be worth all that much.
• Blake Wesley: I've never been a Wesley believer and he didn't show anything last year to convince me I might be wrong, but maybe some team likes his upside enough that he could work as a sweetener.
• Doug McDermott: A knockdown perimeter movement shooter who isn't worth much on his own, but could be attractive as a veteran piece for a team that can't otherwise hit 3s.
• All of our 20+ SRPs

We also, again, have all of our own FRPs, but there's too many unknowns across the next couple years for me to try and predict their value. Suffice it to say that I wouldn't trade next year's under any circumstances, would only let go of 2025's if it was protected for the lottery, and would probably be willing to have talks about any of them in or after 2026.
Potential Trade Analysis
Before anything else, I want to be clear that I'm not advocating for all or even most of these trades. I'm simply doing my best to demonstrate what we might have to give up based on history.
And again, there are a lot of mitigating factors to these other recent trades. Draft class strength, roster makeup, financial situation, etc. - it's impossible to ever get 1-to-1 comparisons for something like this. But I think they work pretty well as rough examples.
Oh, and here's an aggregation of the current "professional" mock drafts out there in case anyone wants an idea of what prospects we'd be talking about in each position.
One last thing: When I'm talking about trades that have been made for these picks historically, I'm only including ones that were made between the lottery and draft day or on draft night specifically, since obviously the slots for future picks in other trades wouldn't have been known at the time of the deal.
Pick #5 (Detroit)

• 2018: DAL trades w/lightly-protected 2019 1st for pick 3 (the now-famous Luka/Trae trade)

PROPOSAL: This.
We don't have a great comparison point to open with here, but this feels about right to me. No one, media or fans, can agree on Keldon's trade value, and there's some teams I think he very much would not fit on, but I think it makes a lot of sense on Detroit’s end for the reasons Edwards laid out - he opens up a ton of options for the Pistons to experiment with assuming that they actually get a full year of Cade this season and, in the best-case scenario, can become a very good sixth man for them long-term. They really need a young wing, and after the gut punch of falling to #5 where they’re in the unenviable position of having to decide between a bunch of low-floor, high-ceiling guys, they might be tempted to take out the guesswork and go with someone who’s already shown what he can do for a couple years. I'll return to this comparison later, but if Detroit takes Cam Whitmore in this spot, for example, and he becomes what Keldon is now, I think they'd call it a successful pick.
MY EVALUATION: Spurs say no. I think Keldon has more value to SAS than anyone they could be targeting in this spot unless Amen Thompson is still there and the FO is supremely confident in him becoming a decent off-ball player.
Pick #6 (Orlando)

• 2013: NOP trades to PHI with protected 2014 first for Jrue Holiday and pick 42

PROPOSAL: SAS trades Devin Vassell, CHI 1st and pick 33 for picks 6 and 36
I’ve seen rumors that ORL might want to package this and their #11 pick to move up, but I don’t know where that comes from. Can’t see Charlotte taking a deal like that, Portland and allegedly Houston want immediate help instead of two more rookies, and the #5 from Detroit wouldn’t really be worth it from the Magic’s standpoint. Maybe they can send #6 and #11 plus Suggs to the Rockets? Either way, the Magic are another of those teams I was talking about earlier that already has a lot of young players that they want to get touches, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they move one of their two picks for something else.
Holiday was coming off an all-star season, and though Vassell is obviously not an all-star (at least not yet), I do think he's a pretty decent approximation of 2013 Jrue Holiday. Same age, and the best players on their respective teams. Good defense, good outside shot and still some room to grow as a self-creator. I think he was probably looking at some MIP votes last year if he hadn’t gotten hurt.
MY EVALUATION: Spurs say no, obviously. They're not trading Devin. I think they could theoretically get this slot just by giving up a big package of picks, but at that point the evaluation becomes too difficult to really be worth it for this exercise IMO.
Pick #7 (Indiana)

• 2017: MIN trades pick 7 with Kris Dunn and LaVine to CHI for Jimmy Butler and pick 16

Obviously there’s no real similar deal to be found here - if we had a Jimmy Butler we’d be in a wildly different situation in the first place. I could try to put together a big picks package, but IND is guaranteed a very promising prospect at this spot and, in my opinion, they have too many holes in their team right now (or at least a very large defense-shaped hole) to move it for futures when they're already looking at more picks than they want to make.
MY EVAULATION: They'd ask for Vassell and they won't get him; this pick won't be ours. Moving on.
Pick #8 (Washington)

• 2016: SAC trades to PHX for picks 13 and 28, a future 2, and rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic

PROPOSAL: SAS trades Malaki Branham, Tre Jones, TOR 1st, CHA 1st for pick 8 and Delon Wright
Here’s where things start getting a little interesting, because this is the first slot where I can see one of the presumptive primary targets for the Spurs enter the mix in Anthony Black. Indiana might give him a look if they really value his defense and versatility, but I think Walker and Hendricks are more likely directions. So that brings us to Washington. That organization makes my head hurt but I have a hard time seeing a universe where they don’t make this pick. Either they keep smashing their head against the wall of irrelevance or they finally decide to tear it down, and either way it doesn’t make much sense for this pick to find its way to us.
But if the Wizards were to trade this pick, I imagine it'd be because they’re getting a young and high-upside prospect who’s already shown legit NBA flashes in Branham, which they’re sorely lacking and could reasonably be thought of as equivalent to or probably even a little bit better than Bogdanovic in 2016. This also gets them an uber-reliable young backup PG that can be had for a few cheap years (something you'd be pretty happy to get with a #28 pick) and the Spurs take back Wright for salary purposes and to have a veteran PG option of their own, though it’s entirely possible WAS values Wright more highly anyway for defensive purposes.
MY EVALUATION: Both teams say no, although if we put Wesley in there instead of Branham I think things get interesting from the Spurs' point of view. You can never predict the Wizards, but I think Michael Winger would have to be given an offer they can’t refuse to tempt them not to just stay here and pick Black or Hendricks or Whitmore or whoever else has fallen to them. Reportedly, he has the blessing to finally rebuild if he so chooses, and it’s hard to see them not starting the process off here. Not for nothing, but Winger used to work under Presti.
I do wonder what would happen if the Spurs offered Keldon for this pick straight-up, though. If Kuzma leaves, the Washington wing situation suddenly looks completely ghastly. Returning to the "Whitmore-Johnson test," if the Wizards picked Cam up here and he turned into Keldon, I think they'd be quite pleased. Not "all-time draft victory" pleased, but a huge win for a team that's mangled their draft a couple times recently.
Pick #9 (Utah)

• 2013: MIN trades to UTA for picks 14 and 21

PROPOSAL: SAS trades CHA 1st and CHI 1st for pick 9
Pretty simple here. If a team thinks that Chicago pick will convey, late lottery seems like a reasonable place to expect it to land. If the Charlotte pick conveys, it'll be in that 15-20 range.
MY EVALUATION: Utah says no because there's a good chance those picks don't convey, because picks in future drafts are always treated as less valuable than those in the same draft, and because Ainge doesn't make trades when he's not fleecing the other team for all their worth. Also, Utah doesn't really need more future picks either.
You know what? That was boring. How about another option?
PROPOSAL: SAS trades Keldon for pick 9
The Ainge factor remains, but in a vacuum I do think this is pretty fair value straight up. Let’s talk about the SAS rotation for a minute assuming they do indeed make SOME trade for a PG prospect. Wemby and Vassell are starting, no question. Collins got the Pop endorsement at the end of last season, so he’s in there too. That leaves four players fighting for two starting spots: Keldon, Sochan, Tre Jones, and the newly drafted PG. Sochan started 53 of the 56 games he played last year, and with the excellent upside he has, I have a hard time imagining he’s not getting the nod at the 3; even if he’s not, he’ll be getting tons of minutes. I and others have supported the Point Sochan experiment, but if we’re bringing in a real PG, I doubt we’ll see a whole lot more of that and they certainly won’t start a Sochan/Vassell/Keldon/Wemby/Collins lineup. So Keldon’s probably sliding to the sixth man role. And that’s fine - if he has a role on this team when they’re ready to contend again, it’ll be that one - but trading a sixth man for the right to select the guy you theoretically think can be Victor’s running mate for a decade, especially when there’s plenty of other guys off the bench that you want to keep giving minutes to, is more than reasonable all things considered.
As far as UTA goes, they need a PG prospect all on their own but I think they can get Kobe Bufkin with their #16 pick and I kinda love the fit there for him. If you’re the Jazz, would you rather have Keldon and Bufkin or, say, Wallace and Leonard Miller? I don’t know the answer to that, but I think there’s at least a chance they’d prefer the latter, as even with a pretty lean roster I don’t know how badly they want to find playing time for three first rounders this year. Keldon and Markkanen don’t even step on each other’s toes in the UTA system, and though they’ll definitely continue the tank this year to avoid losing their 2024 pick, Keldon could easily still be around on a very team-friendly deal by the time they’re ready to start pushing for the playoffs again.
MY EVALUATION: Utah says no strictly because Ainge gonna Ainge. I'm not sure I'd do it if I was the Spurs, either, because injuries will happen and Victor might get more DNPs for load management this year than any of us want to see. But it’s a conversation worth having and I can’t say I’d be falling to my knees in an HEB if it happened on draft night.
Pick #10 (Dallas)

• 2018: PHI trades to PHX for pick 16 and a Miami first in 2021
• 2017: SAC trades to POR for picks 15 and 20
• 2014: PHI trades to ORL for pick 12, 2015 second, and 2017 first*

Strap in, this is a fun one.
PROPOSAL: This.
This is the pick in the lottery that I think is most likely to move, outside of maaaybe #3. That’s kind of awkward, because Dallas wants (needs) talent to help them win now and we don’t have much of that. Specifically, they need defense and a real starting center - if they can get both of those in one guy, so much the better. Keldon doesn’t move the needle for them IMO and we’re obviously not gonna give up Vassell at this slot. The OTHER thing Dallas needs, though, is something we do have in spades: cap room. Our old friend Davis Bertans has one of the worst contracts in the league for next season - $17m for a guy whose defense deficiencies make him unplayable - and while he only has $5m guaranteed in 2024, I think Dallas needs help right now to keep from running a real risk of fracturing their relationship with their best player since Dirk.
I think it’s POSSIBLE Dallas just trades this pick with Bertans and, say, McGee for, the TOR 1st + CHA 1st + a bucket of SRPs or something, then tries their luck in free agency (to go for Jakob or Brook etc.) before using their new draft capital to seek another trade if need be, but I think it’s more likely that we’d be looking at a full-on three-teamer here. There’s a lot of options there depending on which teams are panicking or not, and most of them I don’t find overly likely. Does Boston overreact and give up Robert Williams in a psychotic episode? Does Atlanta move Capela? Eh. Maybe, I guess, but I doubt it. How about Cleveland, though?
This is a pretty skeletal framework of what a deal could look like so don’t take it as absolute gospel. Three-team trades are often complicated enough that there could easily be a few more moving pieces were such a trade to happen.
MY EVALUATION: This could be a winner. I don’t think CLE has to trade Allen yet, but if they’re not exploring the option and asking themselves some tough questions about whether the pairing with Mobley is the real long-term answer after what happened against the Knicks, they’re not doing their job. THJ shot almost the same percentage on 3s as Caris Levert did last year on over three more attempts per game, and his defense, while not amazing by any means, is better than it gets credit for. Getting rid of Rubio also gives them a little extra salary to play with in free agency - it’s not much, and it’s not a great class, but I think there’s enough there for Cleveland to find a way to make themselves a better playoff team than they were last year. This also lets them recoup some draft capital that is basically nonexistent for them right now after the Mitchell trade.
On the Spurs side, even if Rubio is basically washed, he’s an incredibly smart and experienced PG who could do a lot to mentor the young guy that we’d be bringing in at the position, and if he needs to come in for a few minutes here and there to hold down the fort, that’s fine too - we’re not trying to be good yet. I’d be surprised if we don’t bring in a vet guard in some fashion this offseason regardless. Plus, we have to get to the salary floor before the season starts anyway; why not kill three birds with one stone on this trade?
Cleveland probably still says no. I don't know if they're quite ready to pull the plug on Allen. But I don't think it's that far off.
Pick #11 (Orlando)

• 2022: NYK trades to OKC for 3 protected first-rounders (DET (protected), WAS (protected), DEN, all 2023)
• 2018: CHA trades to LAC for pick 12 and two 2s
• 2016: ORL trades with Oladipo and Ilyasova to OKC in return for Ibaka

PROPOSAL: SAS trades TOR 1st, CHI 1st, and Doug McDermott for pick 11
Last year's trade is the easiest comparison to make on this list. Not perfect, still, but with the added context of what other trades in this range have brought back, I think it still works. The DET and WAS picks were fairly heavily protected (top 18 and lottery, respectively) and I don’t think it surprised anyone that the Nuggets pick is as late as it is, so despite it being three first rounders the overall value OKC traded wasn’t huge. Even with the Knicks having financial incentive to move off the pick, the package was pretty well in line with historical trades in this range. That said, I think people are viewing the talent around this slot higher than 2022’s at the time, so the offer might need to still be a tiny bit stronger. But one could reasonably argue the TOR pick alone is more valuable than anything else that's been given for this slot in the last 10 years.
Let's talk about the Magic a little more. Let’s say Orlando is pretty happy with what they’ve got right now, which I think they should be. Banchero was a very deserving ROTY, Franz is a bucket, and they’ve got a lot of promising supplemental pieces. They looked pretty dangerous at times last year, especially in the second half of the season when they were healthy. What they DON’T have is a lot of excess draft capital. They own Denver’s pick in 2025 which isn’t likely to be very valuable, and other than that they have only their own firsts. A trade like this allows them the chance to keep adding lottery talent into the future even if they expectedly become a consistent playoff team, and since they also have #6 this year they don’t even have to completely go without a shiny new rookie to do it. Doug is included because the return still felt a tad light to me and because Orlando was 25th in the league in 3PT% last year - it’ll help if they get a full season of Gary Harris, but if they want to make a strong run at the play-in, they might need a little more. Lots of mocks like them to take Gradey Dick here, and while McDermott obviously wouldn’t figure into their long term plans, if they’re making to look a little noise this year, McDermott is almost definitely giving them more than what Dick would as a rookie.
MY EVALUATION: This is my favorite slot to target and I think it's a fair trade for both teams. Orlando doesn't necessarily need to add two more lottery guys to their roster this year when they can conceivably make a push for the play-in with what they already have, even while still getting touches for their foundational pieces. The Spurs like McDermott and I'm sure would love to keep him around all else being equal, but I don't think they'd let him stand in the way of getting their PG of the future. It might take the CHA pick as well or maybe a bunch of seconds or something, but I think we have something here all things considered.
Pick #12 (Oklahoma City)

• 2016: ATL acquires from UTA in three-team trade (sends Jeff Teague to IND who sends George Hill to UTA)

Now this spot on the other hand... There's nothing to be done here. There’s nothing to be done here. Teague averaged 15pts and 6ast per game as a starter for 5 years in ATL with an all-star season in ‘15. Hill had slightly worse stats in 4 years as a starter in Indiana. Tre Jones plus the TOR 1st might be comparable value, but OKC doesn’t need a PG even at the backup position and they already have more future picks than they know what to do with. The scuttlebutt seems to be saying OKC will trade up if anything, which makes sense, and they certainly don’t need to do anything drastic after the improvement they showed last year and Holmgren still waiting in the wings. I’ve done plenty of looking for an angle on this pick and I just don’t see one. They’ve even got plenty of cap room and no bad salary to begin with. We’ll just move on.
Pick #13 (Toronto)

• 2022: CHA trades to NYK for a Denver 1st and four 2nds, who then trade to DET after the draft with Kemba for a Milwaukee 1st in 2025
• 2017: DEN trades to UTA for pick 24 and Trey Lyles
• 2013: DAL trades to BOS for pick 16 and two future seconds

This one needs some intro first. I have no idea what the Raps are planning to do and allegedly the team doesn’t either. Reportedly, Masai still thinks they have the ability to win now - I don’t know if that means actually winning a championship or just getting to the playoffs, but I think he’s wrong either way. Regardless, he’s such a bizarre trader that it feels impossible to predict what may or may not get a deal done. He overvalues his own players to an absurd degree, but he seems to do the same with Spurs players too. How we ever got a first rounder (that became Branham) for Thad Young and Drew Eubanks I’ll never know. So yeah, there’s certainly a recent history of swaps between us and them, one of which famously worked out amazingly and a couple others that very much didn’t.
Whatever direction Toronto does decide to go in, I think they’d be best served just making this pick. Keldon doesn’t make sense for them and we’re way past the part of the lottery where we’d even consider trading him anyway. But how about another direction?
PROPOSAL: SAS trades CHA 1st and pick 44, plus more future SRPs, and extends protection on 2024 TOR 1st to top-12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025. In return, SAS receives pick 13.
I wonder if something this simple gets it done. Maybe what we can best offer Toronto is flexibility. Maybe they carry this whole “I dunno” mentality into the season and then they’re a completely mediocre team at the trade deadline again staring down the barrel of a lost season where they probably still have to give up a pick to us that could easily fall into the 7-10 range. Would they give up #13 this year to ensure they can’t lose, say, pick #8 next year if their season falls apart? I don’t know, but maybe. With this offer, they even still get to make a couple other picks this year, and they’ve had success with late firsts and early seconds recently on drafts that looked a good deal thinner. Hell, looking at recent swaps for this slot, this even feels almost like an overpay - I think PATFO would have to be very sure about the guy they’re picking to give up a top-6 protected selection from a team in TOR’s current position.
This is the pick right now that I think is the most up in the air as far as availability - it could change dramatically over the next month depending on what sorts of conversations are happening in Raptors HQ. They could move up, they could move down, they could stand pat. I have no idea. It’s also the deal that I think has the most potential to come together extremely quickly on draft night; I could see Toronto having a couple specific guys in mind here and then scrambling to make a deal if they’re suddenly off the board.
MY EVALUATION: Raptors say no, but they think long and hard about it first.
Pick #14 (New Orleans)
Has not been traded in the last decade.
Sorry to end with a whimper, but yeah, I don’t see a deal to be made here. If they’re healthy they’ll be a team no one wants to see in the playoffs, and if they’re not, there’s nothing much they can do about it at this juncture. They’ve got plenty of future picks, they won’t want anyone on the SAS squad that we’d give up for pick 14, and there will absolutely be talent here that can help them immediately; they’re keeping this. I GUESS they might look for someone to dump Valanciunas in favor of one of the free agent Centers, but that would be kinda risky on their part and they’d probably want a return that’s less abstract than just the cap room and a few second rounders or whatever.
JUST-FOR-FUN PROPOSAL: This hilariousness.
I expect PHX to have better offers on the table for Ayton, but after his disappearing act in the playoffs I wouldn’t say it’s a certainty. Maybe they’re so tired of him that this feels like an okay return, and maybe New Orleans thinks they can unlock whatever potential might be left. This also gets the Spurs the veteran C they reportedly want; JoVal isn’t exactly an elite rim protector but he’s a heck of a rebounder and can stretch the floor on the other end.
Like I said, though, this is just for kicks anyway for the people who want a wild idea; I don’t think the Pels want Ayton and I don’t think they should.
MY EVALUATION: New Orleans says no because they're not insane and Phoenix probably does too. But it was a fun time in the trade machine.
So, just to recap...

• Picks I can’t see us getting: 6-8, 12, 14
• Probably not, but I could believe it: 5, 9, 13
• Sweet spot: 10 and 11

Pick #11 is the one I’d spend most of my time going after on the phone if I was an executive. #10 has its merits, especially because I personally like the Rubio idea a lot, but we can get a Cory Joseph or George Hill in free agency just as easily to fill that role, and the larger problem is that we’re already going to be dealing with a roster crunch that Bertans and/or McGee would exacerbate. #11 could end up costing nothing but picks that we have an excess, plus maybe McDermott, who we were perfectly willing to move at the deadline anyway and who would actually open up one of those valuable roster spots as well. I also don’t think there’s much danger in Dallas taking the guy we want if he is still on the board at 10.
Again, don’t take my proposals as any kind of hard offers; several of them I wouldn’t even support myself, as you can see. This is just meant as a quick-and-dirty (well, at least dirty) reference for what kind of value we might be looking at in these discussions.

We’re in a very interesting spot with picks at 21 and 22. As many have noted before it seems to be right in Marks’s sweet spot draft-wise (Levert at 20, Allen at 22, Cam T at 27 being notable hits).
However picking in the early 20s means all of the “sure thing” prospects are long gone, and players on the board typically fall into one of two camps:
“Low Floor, High Ceiling” younger, raw, toolsy and athletic prospects. They may have struggled/underperformed in college or come off the bench. If international they may have played in a lesser league or have an undeveloped offensive game. Guys like this: GG Jackson, Dariq Whithead, Derek Lively, Rayan Rupert, Bilal Coulibaly
“High Floor, Low Ceiling” older prospects that may be more of a finished project - an upperclassman in college, contributed to winning basketball at a high level and with developed skillsets, but perhaps limited in athleticism and upside. Would likely project as a role player on the Nets. Guys like this: Kris Murray, Colby Jones, Jaime Jaquez, Marcus Sasser
As we all know the Nets are rebuilding. We may (or may not) have a franchise player in Mikal Bridges, and it is unclear how close we are to contending again. With these two picks, would you rather take the chance on a young raw prospect turning into a superstar (or a bust), or go after a player you know can contribute to winning and could turn into a key role player on a championship team?
I think it’s also important to note that the common perception of upperclassman draftees having “low ceilings” is frequently disproven - our own Bridges and Cam J are evidence of older prospects developing beyond their initial projection. Claxton on the other hand is an example of a raw toolsy prospect putting it all together. Marks himself doesn’t seem to have a strong preference, having drafted both upperclassmen (Levert) and plenty of one and done/young prospects (Allen, Musa, Clax, Cam T, Sharpe). Just curious as to what you all think as this upcoming draft will say a lot about how they view this roster going forward. With two picks I’d expect one draft pick from each category but for the sake of the poll choose only one.
Ultimately the question boils down to: how much do you trust our coaching staff to develop? How close are we really to contending again? We obviously can’t answer those but I’m curious what people here think.
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As a Wizards fan (I grew up in the prime of the Arenas era - his game and personality did more to foster my love of NBA basketball than anyone else), I need other teams to root for and watch, or else my entire life is misery and pain. Recently, that team was the Raptors because I love Pascal's story, Nurse's coaching, and Kawhi defeating the Warriors/KD. But the Raptors reddit is kinda obnoxious and, while I like Scottie, the past couple seasons have left a sour taste in my mouth. I will also root for any team with Russell Westbrook because Russell Westbrook is my modern day (and less problematic) Gilbert Arenas.
I love the Thunder roster. Y'all don't need me to wax poetic about Shai and the roster construction and the potential of Giddey and Jalen Williams and Chet plus 46% of the league's future draft picks in the next 6 years. The team is fun and exciting and a "feel good" story, AND, as a begrudging Wizards fan, it is so refreshing to actually see an organization develop a plan and build a team with intentionality and a vision (instead of floundering in mediocrity like the Wiz). It does seem that others are catching on to this though, with the Thunder being a popular pick for next seasons Kings (an up-and-coming team that can make some noise in the playoffs). So all that said, is it too late to join the bandwagon? Will you have me?

I am a fan of both teams and would have rooted for the Lakers as I did in 2020 when you beat the Nuggets in the bubble WCF. Watched every series and was excited about the Lakers' roster after the moves made after the trade deadline and not surprised to see them in the WCF vs. the Nuggets. I know there's a rivalry between the 2 teams but it's not so acrimonious to me as I was not around during the melo years and just want to see good basketball.
I'm curious from your perspective, what in the hell happened to Anthony Davis? I was not surprised that D-Lo struggled or LeBron bricked from 3 (I love those 2 players though!) but like I cannot wrap my head around why Anthony Davis was just standing around a lot of the games. Not boxing out, not getting rebounds. It is clear he can play defense when he tries, it's clear he is the most dominant scorer on the court... when he tries. So what is it? Is he just gassed? Even in the game where he had 40 points he could have easily had 50 and played a lot better I thought. Sure Jokic deserves some credit, but Jokic being certifiably actually-not-that-bad-at-defense does not explain AD's lack of impact relative to his potential given his TALENT.
I am not an Anthony Davis hater, I enjoy his game and just expected more and am curious about your take.
Edit: Right foot stress injury. Davis was listed with the injury all series and played in every single game. (I'm such a dumb person, I could have just googled, so sorry, hope to see AD healthy next season and Kyrie at the point)

I'm not talking about the people mad at the team. I'm not even mad at the people slandering Jimmy or Bam. Be as mad as you want. I don't care.
But the people talking about "this series is over I would be surprised if we didn't get blown out" and people replying to hope posts calling them delusional are so fucking annoying.
If you think there's no chance we win game 7 then fucking leave until the off-season. I'm so tired of coming onto this sub after every loss all year and seeing fucking pussy ass losers doomerposting. How can you be a fan of the MIAMI HEAT of all teams and shit on people who have hope for the team? Exact same vibes as the people crying talking about they hoped we lose to the garbage bulls.
Literally this ENTIRE run was playing with house money ESPECIALLY after Herro and Oladipo got hurt. So why are we surprised when we lose a few games? It's so crazy I feel like some of you would've rather have gotten swept then to go to game 7 or potentially lose game 7. "B-but we're on the wrong side of history.....everyone is going to make fun of us!" Who gives a fuck. Grow a fucking spine. This is yet another deep playoff run by a team that is clearly capable. Acting as if we need to blow it up is genuinely asinine when all we need is some small roster adjustments and ANY non-injury luck to be a championship contender.
The amount of people who whine every damn day as if we aren't one of the most privileged fanbases in the NBA blows my fucking mind. You'd all quit basketball if you were a Philly fan or a Bulls fan or a Knicks fan or a Grizzlies fan or a fan of 90% OF THE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE.
Keep the faith and look towards the future or fuck off. Or better yet, if the "Heat culture" you guys have is expressed by doomerposting every 5 seconds and acting as if a team that consistently does deep playoff teams is SO terrible then I'll just leave this cesspit myself.